tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post5133252151875731516..comments2024-03-27T18:51:44.068+02:00Comments on Thoughts from Botswana by Lauri Kubuitsile: Setswana Culture: The Handy Club for SubmissionLaurihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11112458658109887868noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-74925045581908279662009-03-27T10:40:00.000+02:002009-03-27T10:40:00.000+02:00Hi Lauri,I've been reading your blog for a while n...Hi Lauri,<BR/><BR/>I've been reading your blog for a while now and I find your writings facinating. I also read the Mmegi piece, and just like you, I was shocked by what this woman said. In Mauritius, where I'm from, we've come to terms with spousal rape - Thank God. But there still remains a lot to do. One day listenig to the radio, I almost fell off my chair when I heard a woman saying that "if a man beats a woman it's because he loves her". It made me wonder if I should feel sorry for all those women who were never even slapped in the face!<BR/><BR/>In Mauritius, at least in some circles, calling on the culture argument might not be well received, but there is still a core of conservative people out there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-20100049310335128602009-03-26T17:30:00.000+02:002009-03-26T17:30:00.000+02:00You are right Rosie. It is a problem all over the ...You are right Rosie. It is a problem all over the world.Laurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11112458658109887868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-21989582301665439412009-03-26T16:19:00.000+02:002009-03-26T16:19:00.000+02:00Needless to argue about culture...think PRACTICALL...Needless to argue about culture...<BR/><BR/>think PRACTICALLY AND RATIONALY...<BR/><BR/>do not be sooooooooooooooooooooo emotional,dear Barswana or Motswana!<BR/><BR/>Having the father's name written on the birth certificate makes it easier for the Child Support Agency and for the Family Court to find the father,who is delinquent on child payments.<BR/><BR/>Lauri is NOT condemnig the culture...otherwise she would not have married a Botswana man.<BR/><BR/>The issues of domestic violence and child support are very present ALSO in USA or in other Western countries.<BR/><BR/>It is NOT a cultural issue...it is a HUMAN ISSUE.As long as there are HUMANS on this Planet,there will be violence and children,who do not know their father or sometimes their mother.<BR/>There are also cases when WOMEN are running away from their marital duties.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-41963381920139033462009-03-26T09:32:00.000+02:002009-03-26T09:32:00.000+02:00Anononymous- I absolutlely agree with you but the ...Anononymous- I absolutlely agree with you but the point I'm making is that even Setswana culture must be analysed and Batswana should be able to step up and say no this is not okay. The culture card is a handy, lazy way to win an arguement.Laurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11112458658109887868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-66557209180274471082009-03-25T15:08:00.000+02:002009-03-25T15:08:00.000+02:00I read the criminal case State of Botswana vs.Tsob...I read the criminal case State of Botswana vs.Tsobane,who's verdict was a death sentence by stangulation.<BR/><BR/>He killed his OWN child in order to avoid paying Pula 40,- child support per month.<BR/>I know the salaries in Botswana are not as high as in Europe but even for Botswana 40 Pula are not soooooooooooooooo much money.<BR/>Therefore I could NOT comprehend, that there are women,who are getting children hopping to receive child support from a man,who does NOT wish to marry them.<BR/>WHY ALWAYS BLAME WOMEN?!<BR/>The same is in my native country,BULGARIA!<BR/>When a marriage does not function,other women (also my own mother) blame ONLY the wife,never the husband!<BR/><BR/>MEN WHO DO NOT WISH TO REPRODUCT THEMSELVES AND NOT TO MARRY A WOMAN AND TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH HER,have the choice NOT to sleep with her or USE CONDOMS!<BR/>BASTA...how the Italians are saying it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-44211945408755015692009-03-25T07:53:00.000+02:002009-03-25T07:53:00.000+02:00Culture should be examined and questioned and unde...Culture should be examined and questioned and understood before being condemned. For me, the underlying message is simply choose your partner carefully. Also, I'm Motswana and the father of my child's name is on her birth certificate. Our choice;not to make it easier to chase for child support. Unfortunately, we are often blinded by foreign ways which are not always better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-73637695732785494592009-03-25T06:58:00.000+02:002009-03-25T06:58:00.000+02:00I think he left out a word- give men a break , alr...I think he left out a word- give men a break , already trains are finishing themLaurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11112458658109887868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-84635847166546501022009-03-24T23:58:00.000+02:002009-03-24T23:58:00.000+02:00Dear Lauri,as you know I lived in USA and learned ...Dear Lauri,<BR/>as you know I lived in USA and learned English but most of the time I read Court decisions and other legal literature,therefore I do not understand what Mr.Anonymous means by saying:give men a already trains are finishing them." IskAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-78007340472118906722009-03-24T20:49:00.000+02:002009-03-24T20:49:00.000+02:00Ayo- I've wondered wher you got off to. Thanks for...Ayo- I've wondered wher you got off to. Thanks for the congrats. You know this writing game- one step forward two steps back. Today showed me that. How's you're writing going??<BR/><BR/>Helen- You're right, culture changes, that's all we can hope for.<BR/><BR/>Rosie- Getting child support for kids here is a huge mission, you're right.Laurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11112458658109887868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-33643949074426869142009-03-24T20:10:00.000+02:002009-03-24T20:10:00.000+02:00Congrats on your Baobab win Lauri. Seems that this...Congrats on your Baobab win Lauri. Seems that this year began with a bang for you and the momentum is gathering up spped. I saw that Book SA covered it (http://news.book.co.za/blog/2009/03/23/lauri-kubuitsile-wins-one-of-the-inaugural-baobab-prizes/). You go girl :) .AM-C https://www.blogger.com/profile/06652884591759867938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-55701940552218871462009-03-24T20:00:00.000+02:002009-03-24T20:00:00.000+02:00Now, Lauri, quite hedging around. Tell us how you ...Now, Lauri, quite hedging around. Tell us how you really feel. ;-)<BR/><BR/>Thank goodness laws can be changed. It takes time -- and perhaps more time in some cultures than in others. But we here in the U.S. can't get up on our high horses. We still have some obnoxious laws.Helen Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794759602654727110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-86774167526464006842009-03-24T19:57:00.000+02:002009-03-24T19:57:00.000+02:00mind you culture is dynamic. give men a already tr...mind you culture is dynamic. give men a already trains are finishing them. lsk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9052453698252224336.post-25077408382823460322009-03-24T12:10:00.000+02:002009-03-24T12:10:00.000+02:00Needless to say,these customs OUGHT to be CHANGED ...Needless to say,these customs OUGHT to be CHANGED not just for MORAL reasons but because it is difficult for the Family Courts to <BR/><BR/>issue an order to the man,who fathered the child to pay CHILD SUPPORT!<BR/>The women in Botswana make it MUCH to easy for men,who avoid paying child support.<BR/><BR/>We have actually this trend also here,in Berlin.<BR/>In our law ofice we had a client,a Hungarian gipsy,who sued the Social Services for child support because she did NOT know who her's child father was.<BR/><BR/>It is a huge burden for the Senat of Berlin,paying social benefits to mothers,who get kids out of wedlock and think the MIGHTY Government and the taxpayers will pay for them.<BR/><BR/>As far as I know Presiden Ian Khama is a charismatic man but needless to say,Botswana is also hit by the downfall of the diamond and other minerals business and Batswana ought to learn to relay on themselves and NOT to expect that the Government will be always avilable to them!<BR/><BR/>Writing the name of the fatheron a birt certificate will help the authorities to track the location of the father and force him to pay a child support.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com